Y benj new pt

glad you took photos of models...

I m really leaning to upper 4's as the model photos show the class 2 buccal segments well...

yyou could try non extraction but it would mean a lot of class 2 elastics ... may be too much for him...

easy fastest and guarantee'd option is to go for upper 4's and a URA with bite plane and palatal finger springs to retract the upper canines with the lower fixed appliance going at the same time. When the overbite is down, place the upper fixed applaince

Ian

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0tgsv8k7b13bllu/AADi_JqESiibOHiv7qj-Xje0a?dl=0

Pt does not like how the canines stick out more

The patient is a mild class 2 skeletal pattern, with an average FMPA and an average FH. The lips are competent and full with an obtuse nasiolabial angle.

The incisors are a class 2 div 2 with an OJ of 2mm and an average OB. The centre lines upper and lowers appear to be to be OK - the upper 3's are displaced by more than 4mm

There is mild crowding in the upper labial segment and the teeth are aligned in the lower labial segment. The buccal segment on the upper and lowers are aligned.

Molars on the LHS and the RHS are class 2. The canines on the LHS are class 2 and RHS are half unit class 2.

I was thinking with this case we could treat as a non extraction case with upper and lower fixed?